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Ever feel like one of you wants to talk right now while the other suddenly needs to reorganize the garage? You're not alone. In this episode, we’re diving into the push-pull dynamic of anxious and avoidant attachment styles—what they are, why they develop, and how they play out in long-term relationships.

Drawing from the work of Dr. Daniel Siegel, Esther Perel, and the Gottmans, Katie breaks down how these patterns get wired into us, how they can evolve over time, and what couples can do to stop the cycle of conflict and disconnection.

Expect stories, laughter, a few “oh wow, that’s us” moments—and, of course, your signature relationship homework at the end.

What You’ll Learn:

Relationship Homework: Decode Your Dance

  1. Identify your default (pursuer or withdrawer)
  2. Create a safe word or phrase to pause conflict without disconnection
  3. Build a “comeback ritual” for reconnection after a rupture

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