We start on a worry that making videos about photography turns the pictures into content. Good work takes time: photographs one of us shared, taken over three and a half years, had no thread until he had a reason to look. One of us used to stock a friend's shop with any t-shirt that had The Exorcist or a band on it, however badly made, until the friend asked what those shirts said about the place. In photography, the cheap shirt is a lens comparison video made because those get views. One of us compares his first YouTube channel, built by copying Peter McKinnon and Matti Haapoja, with his second, made because nobody made the videos he wanted to watch.
William Eggleston once said he loves his own pictures and doesn't much care for other people's. That put one of us at ease, since he has long worried about liking so many of his own photographs. The other edits hard. An amateur's painting of a barn from an estate sale stands for a fear: that a body of work adds up to an earnest try and never a Monet. After some 40 viewings, the critics in the Garry Winogrand documentary sound like comedy to one of us, and we talk about the thousands of rolls Winogrand never developed. It ends on a Leica M11, bought partly to shoot alongside friends who have Leicas, before we leave to take pictures.
Mentioned in this episode: Garry Winogrand, William Eggleston, Saul Leiter, Alex Webb, Grainydays, Peter McKinnon, Matti Haapoja, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Ross.
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