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In this episode of The Good, The Bad & The Ugly Podcast, Tony Murrell sits down with Ben Butler.

Ben shares his remarkable journey from a troubled childhood marked by racism and family struggles, to becoming involved in football hooliganism, postcode conflicts, and eventually spending time in prison.

He opens up about serving in the Army, his experiences with radicalisation, and the shocking reality of becoming involved with a far-right neo-Nazi group despite being Black himself. Ben explains how vulnerable young people can be drawn into extremist ideologies, the role social media plays in modern radicalisation, and how a desire for belonging can lead people down dangerous paths.

Today, Ben uses his experiences to educate others, helping young people avoid the mistakes he made and showing that change is always possible.

A raw and thought-provoking conversation about identity, extremism, redemption, and second chances.

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