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How do you enable AI inside one of the most highly regulated industries on the planet — without slowing the business or attracting regulatory heat? 

In this episode, veteran financial-services CISO Parrish Gunnels joins Jo Peterson to break down the real playbook for operationalizing AI in banking environments. 

This isn’t theory. It’s where risk appetite, regulation, and revenue meet reality. 

We cover: 

• Why “turn off AI” was a knee-jerk — and why it can’t last 
• Moving from prohibition to auditable enablement 
• How financial-services CISOs model AI-risk in dollars 
• Why human-in-the-loop is still non-negotiable 
• Designing paved roads that stop Shadow AI 
• The 90-day maturity model for regulated AI adoption 
• Culture, training, and trust as the real control surface 

“There isn’t a great model for ROI in security… I think of it as downtime, reputational risk, lost revenue, and the cost of fines per record.” — Parrish Gunnels 

If you’re in a regulated space — banking, healthcare, insurance, public sector — and trying to balance innovation with compliance, this one’s your blueprint. 

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