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In part 2 of this interview, Gerber further elaborates on the bad behavior of big government, and professes his support for presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, who he hopes might actually be able to "drain the swamp".  Martin also asks him about the decline of the nuclear family, citing counterproductive policies implemented by the LBJ administration, and Gerber gives his take on the diminished role of churches, as well as what the future holds.