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In this dynamic and deeply insightful episode, Pastor Bobby Bogard sits down with executive pastors Daniel Cavazos (Resurrection Life Church, Michigan) and Josh Hampstra (V1 Church, nationwide) to talk all things executive leadership. These leaders offer a transparent and practical perspective on “the middle seat”—the unique and often tension-filled position of leading from the second chair.

They unpack the challenges and strategies of stewarding both the senior pastor’s vision and the culture of a church across teams, departments, and even multiple campuses. From driving culture and accountability to staying grounded in humility and servant leadership, Daniel and Josh emphasize that leadership isn't about position—it's about purpose and people.

You’ll hear practical wisdom on cascading communication, sustaining alignment, leading with authenticity, and even how to leverage AI as a leadership tool (without losing your soul). Whether you're on a church staff, leading volunteers, or simply wanting to lead better where you are, this episode is packed with gold.

Don’t miss this masterclass in executive leadership, servant-hearted culture, and the power of leading well from the middle.