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In this soul-stirring episode, Jakobe and Abigail are joined by special guest Codie Cobb to talk about what happens when life turns up the heat. When trials and tribulations come, they don’t just bring pressure — they reveal what’s real.

Together, the trio dives into how the fire of adversity strips away what’s fake, exposes what’s unshakable, and prepares us for breakthrough. Codie shares powerful personal insight on facing storms, staying grounded, and letting the refining process shape who you're becoming.

This is more than just conversation — it’s a call to stop fearing the fire and start seeing it as proof that purpose is near.

🎧 “When Fire Exposes the Fakes” will challenge you, encourage you, and remind you: God doesn’t waste pain — He uses it to purify and prepare.

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