Chris Erskine (Jake's father-in-law) returns! Passions of the heart are explored and discussed as they try and figure out how to balance fatherhood and family life. From the thrill of triathlons to the serenity of surfing, Chris shares his journey of self-discovery and the lessons learned along the way. Tune in for thoughtful discussion on finding fulfillment through adventure and the importance of staying curious at any age.