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In this episode of The Real Intelligence Podcast, Jenny Swim explores the gift of pain—and why it remains one of our greatest teachers, even though we instinctively try to avoid it. Whether emotional, social, spiritual, or physical, pain often triggers familiar reactions: fight, flight, freeze, or fawn.

Together, we’ll:

If this conversation resonates, share it with someone who might benefit from a gentler, more empowering way to understand and navigate their own experience with pain.

Additional Resources:

Salk Institute for Biological Studies. (2023, June 21). From injury to agony: Scientists discover brain pathway that turns pain into suffering. https://www.salk.edu/news-release/from-injury-to-agony-scientists-discover-brain-pathway-that-turns-pain-into-suffering/

Truman, K. K. (1989). Feelings buried alive never die. Bantam. https://a.co/d/i4GKjsL

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