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In this powerful and emotional episode, Dr. Ben Tapper sits down with Katy Smith, the advocate and investigator shining a national spotlight on the case of Preston Mooney—the young Oklahoma boy whose medical complications led to a controversial intervention by the Department of Human Services.

Katy walks Dr. Tapper through the Mooney family’s account of what happened: the medical challenges Preston was facing, the parents’ chosen approach to treatment, and the moment the state determined their decisions were not aligned with recommended medical protocols. According to the family, this disagreement escalated into medical kidnapping—with Preston removed from his home and placed under state custody.

Together, Dr. Tapper and Katy explore:

This episode is a deep dive into a case that raises difficult questions about authority, autonomy, and the boundaries of state power when a child’s health is at stake. It’s urgent, human, and essential listening for anyone concerned about parental rights and the future of medical choice in America.

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