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In this episode of The UX Consultants Lounge, Kyle welcomes her first-ever client into the Lounge: Susan Mercer. With over 30 years of experience in digital technology—including roles in UI design, product management, and UX research leadership—Susan brings a rare and candid perspective on what it’s really like to hire and work with UX consultants.

Kyle and Susan share their history of collaborating on two major projects, including one of the largest diary studies Kyle has ever led. From there, they dive into what clients think during the procurement process, how proposals get evaluated, what builds (or erodes) trust, and what makes a consultant stand out.

Now that Susan is stepping into UX consulting herself, this conversation also touches on how her years on the client side are shaping how she approaches her new business, Perspecta Consulting.

Whether you’re a consultant trying to better understand your clients or a UX leader considering bringing in outside help this episode is packed with honest insights and practical advice.

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