What if success starts with generosity, not the other way around? We sit down with entrepreneur and mentor Shane Muller to explore how people-first leadership builds cultures that last, grows B and C players into A players, and turns good ideas into systems with real human impact. From coding a payroll program at ten to building a “cloud” company in 1999, Shane shows how reframing problems around service unlocks innovation that actually matters.
We dig into SafeWatch, his mental health platform built on a village model where close, authentic relationships beat any “magic pill” app, and we talk through the Destiny Foundation’s focus on dignity, carers and children. Shane calls single mums sheroes for good reason: holding families together under pressure is nation-shaping work. Along the way we confront the limits of technology, the cost of social media’s curated certainty, and why buy-in can’t be purchased but can be inspired by purpose. When people feel valued and trusted, impossible goals become daily work.
Shane also shares a powerful idea: impact worth. Just as we all track net worth, we can build a ledger for actions that outlive us, from mentoring emerging talent to protecting vulnerable kids. You may never see the full harvest, but you can design for it now. If you’re a founder, leader or community builder who believes work should serve something bigger, this conversation offers a practical blueprint: give while living, grow your village, and build systems that dignify people first.
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