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Anniversary weekend starts with sunshine and whiplash: pool plans, Disney stories, and the kind of budget “wins” that only happen when you sit through a timeshare pitch and master the art of saying no. We talk about the weird time-warp of recording while traveling, what we’re drinking, and the tiny punches of aging like the moment you realize you’re no longer getting ID’d and the “kids” next to you suddenly look like actual kids.

Then we turn the lights off and go deep into one of the most infamous true crime cases of the 1970s: Ed Kemper, the Co-Ed Killer. We trace the timeline from an abusive, isolating childhood to the murders that should have kept him locked away, then the system failures that put him right back into the conditions that fueled his rage. We also unpack how Kemper used hitchhiking culture, manipulation, and access to evade detection, and why his intelligence and calm, matter-of-fact interviews still disturb people decades later.

We end with the collapse of it all: the killing of his mother, the note to police, the confession no one believes at first, and what his sentencing and prison life reveal about the contradictions that make this case so hard to shake. If you’re into true crime podcasts, serial killer psychology, and the real-world lessons behind profiling history, this one will stick with you. Subscribe, share this with a fellow true crime listener, and leave us a review and a comment with your biggest question about the case.

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