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What happens when psychedelic research, spiritual inquiry, and neurodivergence converge? In this premiere episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Dr. Rick Strassman, the groundbreaking researcher behind DMT: The Spirit Molecule, to explore the boundaries of consciousness, therapy, and identity.

Host 3L1T3, an autistic psychonaut and longtime community curator, shares his personal journey through psychedelics, the inner wiring of a neurodivergent mind, and why the search for meaning matters. Together with co-host Bryan, the conversation takes unexpected turns: from early DMT studies and pineal gland theories, to the dangers of spiritual bypassing, to the ways autism can shape (and sharpen) visionary experience.

🧠 Topics Include:

• The hidden cost of spiritual highs
• Why Strassman stepped away from psychedelics
• Autistic pattern recognition and altered states
• DMT beings: projection or perception?
• How mainstream psychology misunderstands the trip

Whether you're deep into the psychedelic space or just starting to question consensus reality — this one's for the explorers. Get ready to think differently.

We talk about upcoming guests, give some acknowledgements and shout-outs, and we talk a little about the interview. The music comes from Dyalien on reddit.



Music by Dylalien

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