What actually happens when a psychedelic experience becomes overwhelming in the middle of a concert, festival, or crowded event?
3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Case Newsom, emergency medicine physician and medical director of the Zendo Project, to explore the practical art of psychedelic peer support. Case explains why helping someone through a difficult trip often means resisting the urge to take control, offering simple choices, and creating enough safety for the experience to unfold.
They also discuss Zendo’s integration with medical and security teams at Red Rocks, why emergency rooms can intensify psychedelic distress, and how compassionate on-site care can prevent unnecessary restraint, sedation, and hospitalization. Case shares how one major Denver event went from 54 hospital transports to 17 after psychedelic peer support was embedded alongside medical services.
The conversation expands beyond festivals into the larger need for harm reduction, community support, and psychedelic literacy as these substances become increasingly accessible.
Disclosure: 3L1T3 and Bryan are Zendo Project Ambassadors. They are volunteers, not employees, but may receive financial benefit when listeners use the code DIVERGENTS10 for eligible Zendo Project training programs.
Learn more at ZendoProject.org.
Key Points
Music is Hourglass Hustlin' - Flintwick
00:00:00 A Difficult Trip at Red Rocks
00:01:45 What Psychedelic Peer Support Looks Like
00:03:20 Zendo Disclosure
00:05:19 Meet Case Newsom
00:06:55 From Emergency Medicine to Zendo
00:11:08 The Origins of the Zendo Project
00:13:25 Supporting Without Directing
00:16:28 Learning How to Be Present
00:17:11 Receiving Peer Support
00:19:07 Resisting the Urge to Fix
00:20:32 Choices Instead of Control
00:23:19 The Mushroom Tent Story
00:25:39 Bringing Zendo to Red Rocks
00:27:04 Building Peer Support Into First Aid
00:29:26 Security, Medical, and Psychological Safety
00:30:24 Reducing Ambulance Transports
00:33:13 Why the ER Can Make Trips Worse
00:36:01 Stigma, Authority, and Trust
00:39:06 Creating Connection in a Crisis
00:42:41 The Gaps in Psychedelic Harm Reduction
00:46:33 Underground Communities and Safety
00:48:46 The Future of Zendo
00:53:06 Why Venues Need Peer Support
00:54:28 How Presence Prevents Panic
00:58:01 Closing the Public Interview
01:00:08 Episode Outro
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