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AI is no longer just automating tasks. It’s starting to redefine what work actually is.

In this conversation with futurist and former U.S. presidential candidate Zoltan Istvan, we explore what happens when AI moves beyond efficiency and begins reshaping entire economic systems — from job structures to the growing reality of Universal Basic Income (UBI).

This isn’t a distant scenario. It’s already unfolding.

For leaders, the real question isn’t whether work will change — but how fast, and what to do about it.



🧠 What we cover:

– How AI and AGI are shifting the definition of work
– Why “jobs” may disappear before work does
– The real drivers behind Universal Basic Income (UBI)
– What CEOs and CHROs need to understand about workforce redesign
– The difference between automation and human amplification
– How organizations can prepare for the next 10–15 years
– The political and economic implications of large-scale AI adoption



👤 About the guest:

Zoltan Istvan is a transhumanist thinker, futurist, and former U.S. presidential candidate, having run twice for president and twice for governor of California. His work focuses on the intersection of technology, human enhancement, and the future of society.