In this powerful and practical episode of the Leadership Paradigm Podcast, host Christina Lee sits down with talent development leader Debbie Masak to unpack one of the most critical — and often misunderstood — elements of leadership development: Return on Investment (ROI).
This conversation moves beyond inspiration and into impact. Debbie shares real-world insights from her journey in talent development, including how she helped design and measure programs that didn’t just feel good — they delivered measurable business results, including an extraordinary 1600% ROI.
Together, Christina and Debbie explore why leadership initiatives must align with business strategy, how visibility accelerates leadership growth, and why personal investment is the cornerstone of professional advancement.
If you're a CEO, HR executive, talent leader, or emerging leader, this episode will challenge you to think differently about how leadership development is funded, measured, and sustained.
Metrics That Matter
Debbie and Christina highlight several measurable indicators organizations should track when evaluating leadership initiatives:
Memorable Moment
Debbie shares the story behind a leadership development program that achieved a 1600% return on investment, demonstrating what’s possible when strategy, measurement, and intentional design come together.
Who Should Listen
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