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In this episode, we sit down with a powerful guest—a Black woman principal whose journey has taken her through multiple roles both inside and outside the classroom. She shares her lived experiences navigating school spaces where Black women are often underrepresented, reflecting honestly on the struggles she’s faced and the resilience required to keep going.

Our guest speaks candidly about what sustains her as a leader, how her identity shapes her leadership, and the lessons she’s learned along the way. She offers wisdom and encouragement for Black women in school leadership, as well as practical and affirming advice for classroom teachers who are trying to survive—and thrive—in similar environments.

This conversation is a reminder that while the work is challenging, Black women continue to lead with purpose, care, and courage. Whether you’re an aspiring administrator, a current school leader, or a classroom teacher, this episode will leave you feeling seen, validated, and inspired.

Scholarship: 

Dr. Jenn M. Jackson https://jennmjackson.com/

"Reimagining Teacher Education: Addressing the Developmental Needs of Black Women Preservice Teachers through a Hauntology Framework" by Mariah Deans Harmon https://doi.org/10.1080/10665684.2025.2565486

"The Space Traders" by Derrick Bell in his book Faces at the Bottom of the Well: The Permanence Of Racism https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/466460.Faces_at_the_Bottom_of_the_Well

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