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Three men with hemophilia share their powerful journeys of transforming physical limitations into sources of strength, purpose, and community connection. 

The conversation opens with Caleb, a first-year public health student at Cornell University with aspirations to become a hematologist, and Carlin, a competitive swimmer turned coach who specifically trains hemophiliacs. Both guests offer candid insights about growing up with the dreaded restriction of "no physical contact sports" - a limitation that sparked both rebellion and creativity in finding their athletic paths.

A fascinating discussion unfolds around the unique challenge hemophiliacs face when exercising: distinguishing between normal muscle soreness and potentially dangerous bleeds. "We're so caught up on bleeding and hemophilia that we forget that we are still normal people. We still can be sore and not have a bleed," Carlin explains, highlighting the delicate balance of "pushing boundaries within parameters."

The conversation takes a deeper turn when exploring mental health challenges. Caleb introduces the concept of "allostatic load" - the physiological impact of chronic stress - particularly relevant for those navigating a chronic condition alongside other life challenges. Both guests emphasize how crucial support systems are, with Carlin revealing his profound transformation after hitting rock bottom: "If I don't want to live for myself, who do I want to live for? I thought about that little kid who was suffering and was like, what if I can create a man that little kid would have looked up to?"

This powerful episode culminates with reflections on finding purpose through adversity and the invaluable connection of the hemophilia community. As host Elia shares his personal mantra "use adversity to change lives," listeners are left with a compelling reminder that limitations need not define us but can become catalysts for growth and positive impact.

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