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Winston Fisher (New York) is a partner and third generation of the Fisher Brothers, the royal family of real estate in Manhattan, founded in 1915. Winston directs the company’s financing and investing activities, property acquisitions and dispositions and oversees all new development initiatives. One of the most exciting of these being Area 15 in Las Vegas, which was developed with Michael Beneville (NY/LA). Winston sits on a number of boards and is also seriously involved in several philanthropic activities, particularly the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Funds, participating in extreme sports to raise funds to support wounded US troops. Alongside all of this, Winston has an active, thoughtful interest in politics, writing a monthly newsletter on current issues. And on the subject none of us can get away from, Fisher has a stark warning for the use of AI in his industry:

'I said three years ago, there's going to be two types of people who are employed. People who use AI will have a job and people who do not will not. At the end of this year, that's going to apply to everybody. Does that mean we're going to let everybody go? No, but if you're not able to utilize it, if you're not able to vibe code, if you're not able to understand sophisticated prompt engineering and multi-agent programs, I don't know if you have a place. It's not terrible. It's exciting.'

This episode was edited by Vanessa Heaney. 

Music by Alex Vickers