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Freedom doesn’t last on parchment alone. We sit down with Dr. Daniel Mahoney to trace why Tocqueville believed that religion—understood broadly and charitably—quietly underwrites the habits that make a republic work. Laws matter, but mores matter more, and the moral culture of a people determines whether constitutions breathe or break. Moving from Puritan townships to the American founding, we explore how early communities paired local self-rule with moral seriousness, teaching citizens to deliberate about justice while tethered to a shared code. That ethic softened over time, yet the deeper pattern remained: religion formed citizens; citizens sustained liberty under law.

We contrast this with France’s revolutionary rupture, where a state-imposed “religion of reason” failed to replace the church it toppled. Tocqueville’s lesson is not to fuse altar and throne, but to keep a public friendship with faith—a separation of institutions without a hostility to belief. We unpack why he saw the Ten Commandments as natural law echoes rather than sectarian impositions, and why he’d likely resist a public square so sterile that biblical literacy is taboo even as other civilizational texts are welcomed. Along the way, we revisit Washington’s Farewell Address, Lincoln’s biblical cadence, and the idea that self-government begins with governing the self.

Pluralism doesn’t erase the need for shared moral ground; it makes it more urgent. We talk about religious literacy as a civic skill, empathy for serious belief across traditions, and the common grammar of the good that allows neighbors to cooperate without uniformity. The takeaway is a demanding middle path: neither theocracy nor militant secularism, but a civic order that protects freedom by cultivating virtue. If you value thoughtful conversations about how culture shapes politics, hit follow, share this episode with a friend, and leave a review to help others find the show.

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