In this honest and energizing conversation, Erik and Alli dive into one of the most essential (and overlooked) truths of leadership: You don’t have to be the fixer to be effective. Through vulnerable stories and sharp insights, they explore what it takes to step away from performative leadership and into deeper influence—especially when your calendar, culture, and conditioning are telling you to do the opposite.
Whether you’re leading a team, managing up, or trying to rewire the habits that got you here, this episode offers a grounded, practical lens on what modern leadership really requires.
🧭 Conversation Highlights
💡 Key Takeaways
❓ Questions That Mattered
🗣️ Notable Quotes
“I thought being a fixer made me valuable. Turns out, it made me unavailable to do the deeper work.” — Alli
“Preparation over presence changed everything for me.” — Erik
“They weren’t just managing the customer—they were managing me. And I didn’t know it.” — Erik
“The truths that got you here don’t have to go with you. They served you… until they didn’t.” — Alli
“You’re not broken. You’re probably just cutting the ends off the ham.” — Erik
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