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We’re joined by Dr. Nick Gatzke, Lead Pastor of Old North Church, to dig into a recent article and studies that reveal surprising dynamics in the church in 2025:

• Why there are more small churches, yet more people are drawn to large churches—and the challenges that creates.
• How the median age for pastors (59) and the rise of second-career pastors impacts training and leadership.
• What the data says about overall satisfaction in pastoral ministry today.

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