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In today's episode, recorded on Father's Day itself, Mick and Adam delve further into Musonius' rules about raising kids. The episode starts out by talking about what it means to "provide" as a father, referencing the Kelly Brothers and their experience as children. Then the topic of the "fatherlessness" problem comes up, and the hosts step back into the rules as they are themselves represented by Musonius Rufus. Topics of virtue before wealth, leading by example, and raising sons and daughters equally in virtue and education, are all discussed today.

Today's translations of Musonius Rufus come from the Cora E. Lutz translation of 1947.

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