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Two Doctors & A Twist | Episode: Psychological Safety — What It Really Takes

Psychological safety is everywhere in leadership conversations—but what does it actually mean in real life, real teams, and real organizations?

In this episode, hosts Dr. Marilyn Carroll and Dr. Jamie Chesler sit down with Dr. Michelle March to unpack the truth behind the buzzword.

Together, they explore:

• What psychological safety is—and what it is not
• Why safety is often confused with comfort, avoidance, or lack of accountability
• How the absence of safety quietly shapes behavior, performance, and well-being
• The subtle leadership behaviors that unintentionally erode trust
• Why resistance, disengagement, or “low motivation” are often forms of self-protection
• What leaders uniquely owe their teams when it comes to power and responsibility

This conversation bridges clinical psychology, leadership practice, and organizational systems—offering language for experiences many people feel but struggle to name.

Most importantly, it offers hope: small, practical shifts leaders and teams can make that create outsized impact—and open the door to trust, learning, and real performance.

If you’ve ever wondered why smart people shut down, teams stop speaking up, or cultures quietly fracture despite good intentions—this episode is for you.

🎙️ Thoughtful. Grounded. Honest.

Because psychological safety isn’t about avoiding hard things—it’s about making them possible.

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