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In this episode, the AI hosts return to Tending the Garden by J. Daniel Alejos to unpack Chapter Two: The Importance of Oughts. Picking up from the prior discussion on humanity’s innate moral compass, the hosts explore what happens when a culture abandons the word “should.” Alejos argues that our sense of obligation — the awareness that some things ought to be done — isn’t a social construct but the framework that gives meaning to freedom, trust, and coherence.

The conversation traces how rejecting the “ought” doesn’t lead to liberation but to drift: when moral direction disappears, relationships, truth, and social trust unravel. Through clear examples and grounded dialogue, the hosts examine Alejos’ diagnosis of modern life — a world that claims morality is subjective yet still cries foul at injustice. Together they reveal how this contradiction exposes our dependence on a deeper structure of moral reality that sustains every act of meaning.

By the end, listeners are left with a piercing question: if freedom without moral orientation collapses into chaos, what kind of formation is required to restore the weight of “should”? This episode invites reflection on what anchors our choices — and what begins to fracture when we pretend those anchors aren’t real.