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In this episode, I discuss with Megan Perry the concept of harm reduction, a set of principles and practices that prioritize people's autonomy and dignity in substance use. Megan shares how harm reduction goes beyond just providing safe equipment and overdose prevention, emphasizing the importance of loving and supporting individuals regardless of their substance use choices. We also explore the often antagonistic divide between harm reduction and abstinence-based recovery, highlighting the need for a more inclusive and compassionate approach. Megan encourages us to reflect on our own experiences, educate ourselves on harm reduction, and support each other without stigma. 

For more resources and to pre-order my new book, When You Love Someone In Recovery: A Hopeful Guide to Understanding Addiction, visit whenyoulovesomeoneinrecovery.com.

00:00 Introduction to Circle of Chairs
00:14 Caroline's New Book Announcement
00:35 Meet Megan Perry
02:04 Understanding Harm Reduction
07:16 Challenges in Recovery Advocacy
14:16 The Importance of Language in Recovery
20:37 Practical Steps for Harm Reduction
25:41 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

You can learn more about Meghann’s work, speaking, and performances at meghannperry.com

Caroline Beidler, MSW, is an author, speaker, and Managing Editor of Recovery.com, where she combines expert guidance with research to help people find the best path to healing and treatment. Her next book, When You Love Someone in Recovery: A Hopeful Guide for Understanding Addiction, is coming Spring 2026 with Nelson Books. Drawing from her own recovery journey through addiction, mental health challenges, and trauma, along with training as a clinical mental health provider and addiction recovery expert, Caroline is passionate about guiding you into seasons of greater healing. Learn more about her books here.

Subscribe to her Circle of Chairs Substack community at carolinebeidler.substack.com