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Can a treatment decision depend on whether one pathologist sees 45% biomarker positivity and another sees 55%?

Visual immunohistochemistry scoring helped establish precision oncology. But as targeted therapies become more sensitive to subtle biological differences, categorical scores such as 0, 1+, 2+, and 3+ may no longer capture the information needed to identify the right patients.

In this episode, I speak with three Roche experts:

We discuss how computational pathology is changing companion diagnostics by moving biomarker assessment from visual estimates to continuous, cell-level measurements.

The conversation examines the limitations of manual IHC scoring, including interobserver variability, intraobserver variability, visual fatigue, borderline cases, tumor heterogeneity, and the inability of the human eye to measure complex spatial relationships.

Using TROP2 scoring in advanced non-small cell lung cancer as an example, Saleh explains the normalized membrane ratio. This computational metric measures protein expression at the cell membrane relative to total expression within the cell—something that can’t be reproduced through conventional visual scoring.

We also clarify the difference between computer-assisted scoring and a fully computational companion diagnostic. An assisted tool supports a pathologist’s visual interpretation. A computational CDx generates the biomarker measurement through algorithmic, cell-level analysis.

That doesn’t remove the pathologist.

Pathologists remain responsible for evaluating tissue quality, staining quality, scan quality, tumor selection, image analysis results, and the final clinical context. They can reject a stain, request a rescan, exclude inappropriate regions, question the result, or seek a second opinion.

The episode also examines the regulatory implications of computational companion diagnostics. Instead of evaluating a single IHC assay, regulators may need to assess the complete system - from tissue preparation and staining to scanning, image management, algorithmic analysis, display, and the final biomarker report.

Finally, we discuss what laboratories will need to implement these workflows, including validated scanning infrastructure, cybersecurity, tighter preanalytical process control, and training that helps pathologists interpret continuous computational measurements.


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Listen to the full discussion to understand how computational pathology could change companion diagnostics—and what pathologists, laboratories, and regulators must prepare for next.

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