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Bobbie interviews a friend as she was in impatient treatment in 2017.Β  Brett shares his journey with compulsive gambling, his opinions on suicide and addiction, as well as some of the nuances of his home state Wisconsin in relation to gambling.Β  Brett is the Executive Director of Seed, an outpatient treatment center, in the Fox Valley of Wisconsin.

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