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Get ready to eavesdrop on a heart-to-heart chat between  Shannan and her youngest kiddo, McKenna. Listen to McKenna dish on how her parents raised her and her sister Mikaela. They discuss marriage and share stories about ministry; these two open up on it all!

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The "Original" Marriage Flippers

Meet the Labradors—Javier and Shannan. Married 33 years, they’ve weathered the highs, lows, and everything in between—and now their mission is simple: to see marriages thrive, not just survive. As sought-after conference speakers, authors, podcast hosts, and creators of 24/7 Marriage Bootcamps—3-day intensives that help couples hit reset—they bring humor, honesty, and hard-won wisdom to every conversation.


Restoring Hope. Redeeming Stories. Rebuilding Strong Marriages.
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