Simon Alvey, Will Cooling and Dr Luke Middup return to not talk about Sir Keir Starmer or Peter Mandelson because nothing could be worse. Instead we talk about people we admire as we discuss our love of Charles De Gaulle, George Orwell, Ernie Bevin, Ron D Moore, Jimmy Wales and Satoru Iwata. Yes I've just noticed that they're all men...apologies for that, we will do another episode about women we admire in the future.