"I think that change goes more effectively when we give more people opportunities to provide input around exactly how the change will happen. And that's something that I think organizations struggle with sometimes where they go, 'Well, this change is just going to happen regardless.' And it's like, "Well, the fundamental thing might be happening..." For example, I worked in a company that went public. We went through an IPO. That was gonna happen from day one. The founders were clear about that was a thing they were going to do. But we got to be intentional about how was that process going to affect us. What were we going to do? How did we want to be in the presence of that change? And I think that's one of the things where we can really engage skillfully with change."
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