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Where is the leadership on climate change? And why do most of the leaders so-called of our western institutions seem incapable of actually leading anything productive and progressive at scale? After hearing a brief statement on ecology by Slavoj Zizek, Amos and Ex discuss the emergence of “leadership” as its own discipline–or perhaps historical artifact–in so many universities at a time when actual leadership seems to be on the decline, at least among the political class, on the most pressing issues of the era.