Would we all be better off if we knew less about the world? If we took less, not more, responsibility for fixing distant problems? If we focused a bit more on our own practical concerns? It's an uncomfortable idea, but one that the Guardian columnist Oliver Burkeman called for in his seminal article "How the news took over reality". Oliver's book is "The Antidote: Happiness for People Who Can't Stand Positive Thinking". He joins Josh, mid-pandemic, from New York.