What happens when war becomes a desk job?
You wake up in Vegas. Sit down in a box. Fly a drone over Afghanistan. Watch your target for weeks—when he feeds his goats, when he hugs his wife—and then one day, you get the call: Clear to Strike.
Then you go home. Eat dinner. And don't talk about it.
Former drone operator and founder of Remote Warrior, Tanner Yackley, joins us to talk about what remote warfare really does to the human brain. Spoiler: it's not like a video game. From moral injury to misdiagnosis, from 3,000 hours of combat to launching a mission-driven mental health org, Tanner takes us inside the proverbial cockpit—and the real cost.
We discuss:
- What it's like to fly over 1,000 remote combat missions (and then replay the strikes over and over again).
- Why PTSD frameworks often fail drone operators—and what they actually need instead.
- The haunting power of proximity in remote warfare: knowing your target's daily routine before taking them out.
- What the military still gets wrong about burnout, trauma, and training.
- Why "it's okay to not be okay" doesn't work if no one believes it.
This one might wreck you a little. It should.
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