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In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with world-renowned Bible teacher, author, and activist Christine Caine. Christine opens up about her powerful journey from being an "unnamed" child in Australia to leading a global movement against human trafficking.
She dives deep into the reality of childhood trauma, the shocking discovery of her adoption at age 33, and how she learned to "rewire" her brain through the Word of God. Whether you are struggling with a "mother wound," navigating disappointment in church leadership, or feeling like you're in your own "Hell Week," this conversation offers a roadmap for moving from survival to a life of true, supernatural flourishing.
In this episode, we discuss:
How to handle the "pain of recovery" after a life-altering injury or trauma.
The difference between a "well-managed life" and a supernatural one.
Why your history does not define your destiny.
Practical wisdom for the next generation of leaders in a social media-driven world.
Why the most fruitful decade of your life might still be ahead of you.
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CHAPTER MARKERS
00:00 Introduction to Christine Caine
02:38 History of Trauma and Resilience
03:33 Growing Up in a Greek Immigrant Home
05:15 The Discovery of Adoption
08:11 Unnamed Number 2508: A Crisis of Identity
09:23 Renewing the Mind through Scripture
11:48 From Numbers to People: The Mission of A21
13:35 Seeking the Biological Mother
15:16 "I Don't Want Any Trouble": A Mother's Voice
19:23 The Pain of Recovery vs. The Pain of Injury
21:42 Breaking Cultural and Family Expectations
27:29 Marriage and Shared Purpose with Nick Caine
34:51 The Wheel and the Oil: Balancing Life
37:17 Avoiding a Well-Managed Life without God
40:51 Having the Faith to Flourish
44:56 Justice Work and the Hope of Christ
52:43 Hell Week: The Choice to Keep Running
57:21 The Danger of Tapping Out at 60
59:42 Navigating Church Failure and Disappointment
01:03:57 Responding Out of Wisdom, Not Wounding
01:14:36 Advice for the Social Media Generation
01:17:03 Deep End Questions: Misconceptions and Prisons
01:23:24 Preparing for the Most Fruitful Decade
01:27:54 Legacy and Handing Over the Baton of Faith
01:31:53 Resources to Help Fight Human Trafficking
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