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Marc and Nick sit down with Dr. Kristopher J. Childs, Chief Academics, Equity and Social Justice Officer at Open Up Resources, founder of K Childs Solutions, and author of Teaching Mathematics for Social Justice, Grades K-12: A Guide for Moving from Mindset to Action. This conversation covers what it actually means to teach math as a tool for sense-making rather than a system of rules to memorize, and why Dr. Childs believes every child who walks into a classroom is already a math person.

Dr. Childs makes the case against the gradual release of responsibility model in math instruction, explains why the answer is the least interesting part of any math lesson, and introduces his popcorn analogy for understanding how and when students develop mathematical understanding. The conversation also covers what it means to be married to the content but never to the context, how mathematics for social justice starts not with controversy but with community gardens and credit scores, and why in-class teaching demonstrations are where Dr. Childs does his most important work. Marc and Nick also go deep on the calculator debate, grouping students in math, and why failing at a standardized test might actually be the least of anyone's problems. If you have ever been told your math department is the one place engagement strategies don't apply, start here.

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