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Cynthia Bemis Abrams, host of Advanced TV Herstory sits down for a deep COVID Zoom chat with Summer Martin ofThe Unconventional Woman Podcast about role models & memorable characters and what they meant for us, our aunties, mothers and friendships.

We discuss the impact of Freddie Brooks of A Different World, Mary Richards of The Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Cosby Show's Clair Huxtable and others on us and generations older and younger. Temple University student Maryam Muhammad adds her perspective on Cree Summer's Freddie Brooks.

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Maryam Muhammad, student at Temple University and blogger at Medium, a place where writers, influencers and podcasters get the word out. Find her work at

Instagram: @NeptunesNegress

Summer Martin, co-host and podcaster

Twitter @summerygory, Instagram: unconventional _woman

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