We reach the end of Season One of Unveiled, but Nessa is keen to make sure everyone knows this is only a brief breather, not the end - and she's policing all end of season reflections to make sure nobody veers into eulogy territory.
Meanwhile, Nessa tells us of struggling with an unplanned hangover that caused her to hear colours, while Niamh has been living a wholesome life with hand carved reindeer and the novelty of cash payments.
Niamh wonders if Nessa is finally losing her resolve and moving over to Niamhâs view on healthcare and wellbeing - and there is a conscious effort to make the podcast that bit more gender inclusive.