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In this episode of Rumors of Doing Good, Rob Schellert speaks with Jack Holloway, founder of Despair Sanctuary in Brooklyn, New York, USA. What began as a moment of despair over taxes owed unexpectedly grew into a vision for creating vigils for the weary—a sanctuary where sorrow is honored and lament is made sacred.

Jack shares the story behind Despair Sanctuary, the heart and vision that sustain it, and his love for drone music—slow, heavy, sustained soundscapes that create space for grief, stillness, and faithful lament. Together, they explore what it means to grieve faithfully in a world that often rushes past pain.

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Intro/Outro music by skinfiltr8r.