Description

"Bitcoin doesn't need more believers. Bitcoin needs more understanders."

Shadrach & Gigi take a walk in Madeira. Recorded during SEC-07.

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Projects & tech mentioned:

• Archipelago (sovereign home node and mesh network platform)
• Archipelago Foundation
• Archipelago promo video
• AtoB (interoperable service protocol, co-authored with Gzuuus)
• Angor (Bitcoin-native crowdfunding; Archipelago placed 2nd in the Angor pitch contest)
• Podcasting 2.0 (open podcast ecosystem)
• #DeMu (decentralized music on Nostr)
• Fountain (podcasting app with value-for-value)
• castr.me (Nostr-to-RSS podcast feed)
• Indie Hub (independent film distribution on Archipelago)
• Plebeian Market / Shopstr / Conduit (Nostr marketplaces)
• Zap Store (Nostr-based app store)
• Fedimint (federated eCash) / Cashu (eCash on Bitcoin)
• Framework (modular laptop hardware)
• Meshtastic / Meshcore (mesh networking)
• Start9 / Umbrel (existing node platforms)
• GrapheneOS (privacy-focused Android)

In this dialogue:

• The episode opens discussing the podcasting 2.0 publishing workflow: AI models can now generate the XML spec, value splits and all
• Spencer's idea: every venue gets an npub, the venue starts the live stream rather than the artist
• Shadrach's #DeMu journey: tried to orange pill Austin musicians, but they were too disillusioned. Pay-to-play venues, Spotify killing label revenue.
• Value for value as social signaling: free-to-play games make millions from cosmetic skins. Adam Curry gets it -- his listeners aren't listeners, they're producers.
• Shadrach's path: punk rock DIY ethos to sysadmin, industrial Bitcoin mining in Texas, S9 miners sold for scrap metal
• The Meshtadel: a network of citadels meshed together. Any node can be taken out and the system routes around the failure.
• "I'm here to orange pill the Amish": moved to Lancaster, PA for food security, rented a farmer's market stall just to talk about Bitcoin
• Printed Cashu certificates for the Amish, horse and buggy to the Bitcoin bank drive-through. Fedimint stability pools make this feasible.
• "Bitcoin doesn't need more believers. Bitcoin needs more understanders."
• Archipelago: sovereign home node on Framework laptop hardware, plugs into your TV, companion app, modular and upgradeable
• Indie Hub: independent films on day one, directors set their own pricing, distributed via paid torrents
• The reversed marketplace: broadcast what you want to buy as an encrypted blob on Nostr. Agents match buyers and sellers.
• "Salespeople will hate it." -- "I know."
• AtoB protocol: made ride-sharing apps (Ridester, Drivester, Trotter) interoperable. Two devs refactored in a day using AI.
• Web of trust is Nostr's killer feature: people wrote about it in the seventies, PGP signing parties never caught on
• Nostr VPN: every device gets an npub, devices find each other the same way people do on Nostr
• SovEng: "the most incredible experience I've ever had in my life" and "some of the most exhausting"
• "We are back again in the early days. And we just have to make it work."

Recorded at 943,357.