In honor of 17 years of friendship, Ben DeJesus and I get on the mic and time travel through the through years from our first meeting in Lower Manhattan all the way to our adventures in LA and Miami as a producer and director. We reminisce on our collaborations with John Leguizamo that led him to work on Broadway and go deep on his documentary RAUL JULIA: THE WORLD IS A STAGE featured in AMERICAN MASTERS on PBS that is nominated for an EMMY and IMAGEN AWARD. Then circle back to Ben's era of fatherhood, family and golf.