Episode 234
Released May 28, 2026
You know the feeling. You've read the books, done the therapy, tried the positive thinking. And yet. Same patterns. Same reactions. Same stuck points — just in slightly different circumstances.
In this episode, Sue talks with Joanna Kleinman — a psychotherapist and leadership coach with 30 years of experience and the creator of the Mind Method. Joanna's work starts from a simple but radical premise: you can't change your conditioned mind. But you can stop letting it run the show.
This is a conversation about why high achievers often feel the least fulfilled, why the strategies that got you here can quietly sabotage you, and what it actually takes to break the loop — not through willpower, but through practice.
