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What if the best gift you could give your team this Christmas is permission to be themselves? Join guests Heather Kenny—ministry coach—and Rob Dyer—senior pastor and comedian from Southern Illinois—as they join host Renée to discuss how leaders can navigate the holiday paradox: the busiest season that also offers unexpected breathing room, where authenticity matters more than performance.

Discover how to support team members through grief, protect your own grounding practices when schedules tighten, actually listen without planning your pastoral response, and receive Christ's peace instead of trying to manufacture it for everyone else. Your presence matters far more than your performance this season.

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