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This week on The Backyard Naturalists, we’re welcoming a cold-blooded guest β€” and we mean that in the best way possible.

Reptile educator Jay Bell joins Debbie and Laurie in the studio, bringing along his unforgettable companion: Norm, a Burmese python who stretches over 6 feet long (and still growing!). Together, they unpack a fascinating (and often misunderstood) corner of the natural world: snakes.

Whether you're a snake lover or snake skeptic, this episode has something for you:

It’s a winding, warm, and often humorous conversation about education, conservation, and connecting people to wildlife β€” even the slithery kind. And yes, you’ll hear Norm moving around the mic more than once!

🎧 Tune in now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, or wherever you get your podcasts.