Hosts Christopher Rice and Eric Shaw Quinn welcome famed prosecutor and critically acclaimed mystery novelist Marcia Clark. The result is a rousing discussion of Marcia’s new novel, KILLER AMBITION, and the latest headlines from the world of criminal justice (or lack thereof.) Relationship expert JoNell Samms has a direct response for a particularly irritating advice seeker, critic-at-large Jordan Ampersand is sick of waiting for his chance to interview novelist Anne Rice, and fairly imbalanced newsman Breck Artery interviews a “doctor” who wants us to know even more about our politician’s sex lives. The premiere of a brand new series entitled WORLD’S WORST WEDDING TOASTS!
[The wealthy] don't get it. They don't get that these laws actually apply to everybody equally. And you're not special, and you're not a sacred cow, and you actually have to show up in my office, and you have to obey your subpoena and all that. It's kind of a weird... They can't deal with it.MARCIA CLARK
The Dinner Party Show Podcast — Ep. 38Marcia Clark Interview Transcript
{This transcript is the Marcia Clark interview portion of Episode 38.}{This transcript is provided as a courtesy and was transcribed as best as possible. Any errors or omissions in the transcript are unintentional. The recorded audio file of the podcast episode is considered the master of what was said.}
Christopher Rice: Welcome back to The Dinner Party Show. I'm Christopher Rice.
Eric Shaw Quinn: And I'm Eric Shaw Quinn.
Christopher Rice: And no sooner had one of our party people, John Matson, asked us what Marcia Clark thought of the previous story we covered, then Marcia Clark arrived at our studio.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Welcome back, Marcia.
Marcia Clark: So happy to be here.
Eric Shaw Quinn: The princess of MSNBC. I'm so been enjoying your recent inclusion on every show I watch on NBC all the time.
Marcia Clark: You poor thing, can't get away from me.
Eric Shaw Quinn: No, I quite enjoyed it. I have to say, your commentary on Thursday, I think it was with...
Marcia Clark: With Lawrence O'Donnell?
Christopher Rice: Lawrence O'Donnell.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Who's the woman, who was the other author?
Marcia Clark: Linda Fairstein.
Christopher Rice: Linda Fairstein, another critically acclaimed mystery novelist.
Eric Shaw Quinn: They did a thing where they did, if you missed it, go back onto the MSNBC…After the show, of course, listen to the show first, but go to the MSNBC site and see if you can't find on the Lawrence O'Donnell show for Thursday. They did this thing where they played little excerpts from that insane final statement from Ariel Castro, and then you and Linda did commentary. It was electrifying. You were so insightful. Marcia was so insightful that Lawrence actually paused and said, "Wow, I hadn't actually thought of it that way, Marcia. That was really brilliant." It really was. It was brilliant. Your contribution on all of this, we've got a million questions we want to ask you about all of that.
Christopher Rice: So we want to talk to you about this case out of Baton Rouge.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Yes. But first, this seedy case from Baton Rouge. What do you think? You've had a minute to read the article.
Marcia Clark: Yeah. I mean, I just never read the first couple of pages. Like, what the hell are they doing? What are they doing? You can't agree to have sex in a public place? We're all like felons or something.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Like everybody in America is now in jail.
Marcia Clark: I know.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Everybody in Baton Rouge.
Christopher Rice: Yeah. I said if I agreed to have sex in a mall when children were present, and even though I was agreeing to have sex later at home with my partner, I would be guilty of a crime, and it's outrageous.
Marcia Clark: No, it's crazy. It's crazy. They can't keep these guys locked up. They can't do this.
Christopher Rice: Well, they didn't keep them locked up. I'll say that. They let them go right away because they had to.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Well, duh, Because they weren't guilty of anything.
Christopher Rice: But they used this basically intimidation act to "clean up", which I'm putting in air quotes for those who can't see us, the park, which there's got to be something epically illegal about that.
Marcia Clark: Oh, it is.
Christopher Rice: Yeah.
Marcia Clark: I mean, it is, the law is unenforceable. They're trying to enforce a law that's been stricken down by the United States Supreme Court.
Christopher Rice: Right.
Marcia Clark: The anti-sodomy law. You can't. It's unconstitutional.
Christopher Rice: Right.
Marcia Clark: So they don't have a valid law. So now they're saying, they're trying to say, "Well, we're not enforcing that law. We're enforcing a law that's on the books that says you can't agree to have sex in a public place." And that's not constitutional either.
Eric Shaw Quinn: That doesn't even make any sense.
Marcia Clark: No, it makes no sense.
Christopher Rice: Casey Rayborne Hicks, the Sheriff's office spokeswoman and idiot, says quote, "This is the law that is currently on the Louisiana books, and the Sheriff is charged with enforcing the laws passed by our Louisiana legislature." So it's sort of like Constitution be damned. I live in Louisiana.
Marcia Clark: Yes. It's on our books. It's on our books. You can't be barefoot in front of a mirror either.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Right.
Marcia Clark: So it's on our books and we will...
Eric Shaw Quinn: And you can graze your sheep on the Governor's mansion lawn every third Thursday, whatever.
Marcia Clark: It's just ridiculous.
Christopher Rice: Crazy.
Marcia Clark: The thing is, these people who get arrested though, they really need to be, have it expunged. They need to have it wiped out because you know, you go to apply for a job or something, and it shows that you've been arrested and you've done nothing wrong. So they really have a lot to make up for.
Christopher Rice: What would you recommend these men do? What course of action should they take?
Marcia Clark: Oh, my God. First of all, really, you have to have them erase this from your record.
Christopher Rice: Right.
Marcia Clark: Absolutely has to be wiped clean and consider suing.
Christopher Rice: Right.
Marcia Clark: Consider suing. I mean, to the extent you can prove any damages.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Yeah, huge class action suit.
Marcia Clark: You absolutely…I would think…
Eric Shaw Quinn: The potential is just gigantic.
Marcia Clark: Oh, yeah.
Eric Shaw Quinn: And there's still oil money in Louisiana. Maybe not as much as there used to be, but you could get a nice little chunk of... Yeah.
Christopher Rice: There is actually more oil money, I believe, than there used to be, because they finally got rid of that rule that said, if the rig was a certain number of miles offshore, Louisiana didn't get a cut of the proceeds. I think Mary Landrieu finally got rid of that crazy law.
Eric Shaw Quinn: And since that, the rigs are now pouring the oil directly on the shore.
Marcia Clark: On the shore, yeah.
Eric Shaw Quinn: There's less separation between those whole things.
Marcia Clark: Yeah. It's accessible, isn't it?
Eric Shaw Quinn: Yeah. What do you think about the former attorney general in Virginia trying to reinstate the anti-sodomy laws there by making it also illegal for heterosexuals to have oral sex? Like everybody. There's going to be a policeman in every bedroom in Virginia.
Marcia Clark: I think it's people who don't have enough to do. They are not busy enough. I swear to God. I mean that you can sit around—
Eric Shaw Quinn: Get a bad habit.
Marcia Clark: ...thinking of bullshit like this when we have real crime, we have real serious issues to deal with.
Christopher Rice: Right.
Marcia Clark: And you're talking about worrying about who's diddling who and how.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Right?
Marcia Clark: Really? This is your big issue?
Eric Shaw Quinn: Is Baton Rouge really this crime free that you have time to be annoying people at the park?
Marcia Clark: Exactly.
Eric Shaw Quinn: "Run along young man."
Marcia Clark: Yeah.
Eric Shaw Quinn: "I don't think so. No, I will not be coming with you, officer."
Marcia Clark: No, exactly. Oh, anyway.
Christopher Rice: Well, it sounds like these guys in Louisiana are hooked up with a civil rights attorney, Andrea Jay Richey. I don't know if that's a name any of us have ever heard.
Eric Shaw Quinn: But maybe increasingly.
Christopher Rice: Yeah. She may become famous off of this case. Absolutely. So they have-
Eric Shaw Quinn: As this group of men come to own the state of Louisiana.
Marcia Clark: I was going to say, you have a class action suit, and suddenly the state of Louisiana goes bankrupt because the class action is going to be so big.
Christopher Rice: Right, exactly. Exactly.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Everybody in the state is liable for saying, "Wow, honey, let's go home and do it in the office." "Oh, I'm sorry. Come with us."
Marcia Clark: To jail with you!
Christopher Rice: To jail with you!
Eric Shaw Quinn: Blue lights everywhere.
Marcia Clark: When you said that, I got this metal image of a parabolic mic hanging over every park just sweeping around.
Christopher Rice: “That sounded a little hot. We should go get him.”
Eric Shaw Quinn: “Move in, move in!”
Christopher Rice: Now, we're going to take a break for a word from one of our sponsors. This is a brand new product that we're very excited here on the Dinner Party Show.
Eric Shaw Quinn: Very, very excited.
Christopher Rice: And then we will be back with famed prosecutor and Dinner Party show favorite, Marcia Clark.
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Christopher Rice: And we're back on the Dinner Party show, already in progress with my co-host Eric Shaw Quinn....
