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In this episode with Dr. John Lieurance, he drops a bombshell in the first few minutes: "I take hundreds of milligrams [of melatonin] every night, and I've gone through months and months of taking it religiously." 

While most melatonin supplements contain a dose of 0.3 to 3 milligrams, Dr. Lieurance has 30 years of clinical experience and, during our conversation, shares his unorthodox but largely research-backed views on melatonin, methylene blue, and mitochondrial health.

As one of the world's leading clinical experts on melatonin and methylene blue, Dr. Lieurance reveals findings that most people have never heard, including why melatonin is an amazing adaptogen and how it even prevents the Warburg effect that powers cancer cells.

The second half of our conversation explores methylene blue, the original compound that inspired the term "magic bullet." Dr. Lieurance explains how this brilliant blue salt was discovered while searching for a malaria cure, how it increases mitochondrial function by an average of 30%, and why it acts as both a prooxidant and antioxidant.

Most fascinating is the synergy with red light therapy…methylene blue absorbs 660-nanometer photons, supports cytochrome C oxidase, and creates powerful antimicrobial effects. He shares clinical dosing protocols, debunks FDA warnings, and explains why higher doses are more effective than the micro-doses commonly recommended.

In this podcast, Dr. Lieurance and I discuss: