My guest on this episode is Irwin Sperber, longtime professor of sociology at the State University of New York at New Paltz. Irwin is a fascinating man who I've known for more than 40 years. There are laughs here (he is a very funny guy), but they are interspersed with serious talk about being a father – in Irwin's case, daughters; in mine, sons. And we also talk about our own fathers.