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We go back to go forward in this episode. We spend time reviewing Gil's book "Wisdom Walking," and how the 4 stages of pilgrimage in his book shape our conversations in the podcast. We talk about Chaos, Birth, Disorientation, Orientation, and Rising from the Ashes. We delve into what are the themes and ideas of the podcast are and will be. 

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