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I recorded today's interview BEFORE the pandemic, so you're not gonna hear us talking about COVID 19.

And you might be thinking...um.... in-person retreats are impossible right now.

Yep. I realize that.

And still, I'm interested in helping you explore the possibilities for your business not just this month or next month or even just this year, but FAR into the future.

For everyone, and perhaps particularly for marginalized groups, IN PERSON events matter. In person connection matters.

If you're feeling that, listen to this interview and think about how in person events might fit into the future of your business.

Even before this pandemic,

I ran my entire business online. I love the freedom being online gives me. I love being able to reach folks all over the world. I get to create relationships with people and help them with their businesses, and it's FINE if we can never meet in person. The rebel therapists I work with are from many time zones.

AND I plan to do some in person work again in the future.

I ran a retreat last year with my dear friend Rebecca Wong. Bonding with Rebecca and the participants, sitting with them, actually hugging them, breathing the same air, it all added so much depth to the work. It's something we can't do at the moment.

I KNOW I'll do more in-person work in the future. That's why I'm talking to our guest today with you in mind, but also with me in mind.

This week, I'm talking to Nailah Blades Wylie, founder of Color Outside. She's a professional coach, consultant, retreat leader, and communications strategist. She runs retreats and in-person events for women of color. That's the part of her work we're focusing on today, so that you can get a master class in what makes an in-person retreat successful.

Here's some of what we talked about:

Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/124